Covid 11/10/22: Into the Background

There was a lot of news this week.

Elon Musk continued to Do Things at Twitter.

America had midterm elections. The polls were roughly accurate, with ‘candidate quality’ mattering more than expected especially on the Republican side.

FTX imploded. For now I am letting Matt Levine handle coverage of what happened.

None of it had anything directly to do with Covid. So this will be short.

Executive Summary

  1. I hear there were midterms.
  2. And that FTX imploded.
  3. Covid death number down a lot, presumably not a real effect.

Let’s run the numbers.

The Numbers

Predictions

Predictions from Last Week: 255k cases (+7%) and 2,600 deaths (-1%)

Results: 242k cases (+1%) and 1,993 deaths (-24%!).

Predictions for Next Week: 250k cases (+4%) and 2,400 deaths (+20%).

That death number is super weird. At first I thought ‘what, they can count votes or they can count deaths but not both at the same time?’ or ‘election day isn’t actually a holiday is it?’ Then the case number came in flat even in the South, although Alabama didn’t report any cases at all (which wasn’t a big enough effect for me to adjust).

Some of the drop is that last week had a spike of about 250 deaths in North Carolina. Still leaves the majority of the gap unexplained. I don’t know. I don’t see how there could have been a large real drop in deaths, and if it was a reporting issue we would have seen a decline in cases. Also, in the regions where we see a decline in deaths, West and South, we don’t see relatively few cases. So the reporting explanations don’t make that much sense here, and it seems unlikely cases actually rose a lot while being underreported or anything like that.

It does raise uncertainty in deaths a lot for next week, and to some extent also for cases, in the usual ‘was this real or was it both fake and in need of reversal’ dilemma. We shall see.

The good news is that there is not much practical impact on decision making, unless this is all hiding a tidal wave of new infections. That is possible. I would still not expect anything like last year’s wave, and for things not go on too long before stabilizing, but the timing between weather and sub-variants would make some sense.

Deaths

Cases

Booster Boosting and Variants

Nothing.

Physical World Modeling

Babies born during lockdown more often miss developmental milestones (study).

I doubt this leads to that much in the way of permanent impacts. It still seems rather not good, the effect sizes here are quite large.

Study finds that Paxlovid reduces risk of Long Covid. Would be weird if it didn’t.

China

Via MR, Nucleic Acid Testing ‘now accounts for 1.3% of China’s GDP.’ Zero Covid is a rather large drag on China’s economy that will be cumulative over time. From the comments, which also interestingly feature massive negative votes everywhere:

I’m a teacher in China and EVERYONE gets tested at least THREE times per week. It is such a waste of time and money.

Meanwhile full surface paranoia continues. The Zero Covid principle and the constant testing would not be my approach, but I understand. The surfaces obsession is something different. Everyone has to know at this point that it doesn’t do anything.

China reiterates Covid Zero Policy (Bloomberg), calls for more targeted and also ‘more decisive’ measures. No signs they will abandon surface paranoia. This seems like it likely gets worse before it gets better.

And Now An Important Message

An SNL sketch, best of the season by far. If you haven’t yet, watch it.

Long Covid

Article from Yale on chronic disease in general and how Long Covid may help us get a better understanding of what it is and how to deal with it. Does not provide much new. Mostly it is the same old ‘now that we have an Official Recognition for a chronic disease maybe we can actually study one of them and that could help us with the others’ story.

Other Medical and Research News

From MR, more on the study on what happens when the FDA loosens its regulations on medical devices. What happens is that the devices get more innovative, effective and cheaper without being substantially less safe. Paper is more robust and compelling than I was originally giving it credit for, and I am moving up ‘lower thresholds for changing devices from Class III to II to I’ in Balsa’s list of candidate interventions.

Saloni offers a bunch of links and takes, for those interested.

A question, both ethical and practical, is what the threshold should be before one should refuse to pay a bill.

This is common. I have experienced very close versions of this.

From an ethical standpoint, this bill is illegitimate and should not be paid. This case is not even close.

What details would have to change before a $1,466 bill for a 10 second procedure the patient could have done herself (and a generic doctor visit) would carry an ethical obligation to pay? Purely on ethical grounds, I am going to go ahead and say it requires something like ‘you were warned explicitly that this could cost that kind of money and that you might have to pay for it, and you agreed to go ahead anyway.’

From a practical standpoint (not legal advice! not financial advice!) based on experiences I know about, when hospitals bill you like this it is mostly aspirational. They would love it if you paid this absurd bill. They also know it is an absurd bill. They could, in theory, if they wanted to, harass you, send your debt to a collection agency, report you to credit agencies or even sue you and attempt to seize your assets. In practice, that seems highly unlikely. The likely consequence is… nothing.

Another tale of the medical system lying to us.

Hedges are often the most amusing part of such stories. None of this seems reasonable to me, including most of the individual steps. Also, ‘luckily I was able to spend several hours of executive function to fix this’ is not a happy ending. It is a very expensive ending.

Meanwhile, they are taking aggressive steps to ensure that drugs we all know work but who no one can afford to get FDA approval for never end up being taken by humans. It used to be you could get something approved cheaper in dogs or horses or cats, and then humans could get it and de facto make their own decisions. Now they are tightening the rules to prevent this, and there isn’t enough money on in animal medicine to pay for human approval, so the patent expires and the drug is never approved. The obvious stopgap solution to this is to make the first FDA approval of the drug a patent-extending event with respect to the FDA-approved uses it got approved for, for some reasonable period. The logic is the same as with normal patents, someone has to do the work and you need to be sure they are rewarded.

Scott Alexander wonders where the hell Prop 29 (aka The Kidney Thing That Keeps Getting Proposed Every Year) comes from and who is backing it and a comment answers it. Turns out it’s proposed… out of spite? (WSJ / LAT)

Explanation of the Alexander Technique as noticing and pausing when you are about to execute functions within yourself. Made the whole thing make sense to me, although I have no way of knowing if my new understanding is right or not.

In case you missed it, Zeynep’s Law.

I am not entirely here for this. Mostly, though, yes, and I am totally here for the second formulation.

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9 Responses to Covid 11/10/22: Into the Background

  1. AnonCo says:

    Zvi,

    I have been hearing a lot about:

    -Abnormally huge amount of RSV infections, country wide
    -Shortage of Amoxicillin (because of #1?)
    -“Really bad” flu season
    -Unrelated, but maybe related(?) shortage of Adderall

    Give the state of *gestures at public health infosphere*, I don’t really have any good sources for putting any of those in context.

    Would you consider adding them to next week’s Covid post? Or if they even rise to the level of their own post?

    Thanks!

    • keaswaran says:

      In particular, I seem to have as many students out of class sick this week with RSV/flu as I did during the peak week of omicron. I’ve also been seeing stories about overcrowding at children’s hospitals, though I can’t yet tell how actually significant that is.

      • TheZvi says:

        I have heard that this season is unusually bad, and that seems not that surprising given we’ve all been doing disease avoidance for two years and then we stopped.

    • Katherine S. says:

      RSV laid me, my husband and my 2.5 year old out for almost 3 weeks now. The only one relatively unaffected was my 5 month old. The severity seems so strange to me given what I know about RSV and the fact that the 2.5 year old has been in daycare since he was 6 months and we have not experienced any disease avoidance. Granted, I’ve only been tested for RSV once before, maybe this is what mild or asymptomatic feels like.

  2. JiSK says:

    For CA Prop 29, spite is an oversimplification. It’s **brinksmanship**.

    > In California, the proponents of a ballot initiative can withdraw their proposal after signatures are verified, as long as the proposal is withdrawn at least 131 days before the general election. This process was adopted in 2014 with the enactment of Senate Bill 1253.

    So the SEIU-UHW guild loads the bomb, then threatens to detonate it unless the dialysis companies cooperate in their attempt to unionize the shop. A two-stage game of chicken, where the guild (I refuse to dignify anyone who resorts to this shit as a ‘union’) has credibly torn off their steering wheel for the second stage before the first stage begins.

  3. Craken says:

    About 10 years ago I received a bill for a routine diagnostic procedure that was 10x the amount I had paid a few years earlier. The first time I had no insurance, was charged about $200. The second time I had decent insurance and the 10x bill (~$2100) was the remainder after insurance had covered a part. The fraudster was a teaching hospital of a major medical school. I called them, refused payment, offered to negotiate, was rejected. About a year after the procedure the bill was sent to a collection agency.

    The collectors were also uninterested in real negotiation, but they never sued and never collected. Both entities failed at financial optimization to a surprising degree. Yet, they managed be a long running nuisance. Also, the credit agencies did not recognize the debt claims as illegitimate (despite my manifest eloquence in disputation). My credit rating took a hit for several years. Adding this hit to the nuisance factor probably makes my strategy a bad tradeoff for many people compared to paying the fraudster.

    I later discovered that my mistake was to have this routine test done at a hospital, since they charge the same inflated price for inpatients and outpatients, for emergency tests and routine tests.

  4. brp says:

    I don’t understand why Americans put up with these medical ~~bills~~ footguns. Ear cleaning performed by a specialist ENT doctor in a first-world country is $10, maybe $30 without insurance coverage (equivalent to an hour at median local wages). That’s the price for microsuction to get everything out.

    At $600 you must be paying for the doctor’s wages and benefits for a full day. For a ten minute procedure, that’s a scam. At $3000+ in prices charged to insurance companies you must be subsidizing *weeks* of billable man-hours spent negotiating, paper-shoving, and bill-avoiding. Do the individuals negotiating make that much? Can we bribe them off directly to ignore the bill? That can’t actually be the price for healthcare…

    Hell, when routine (non-emergency, predictable-cost) procedures that cost $30 abroad approach $600 domestically, it is literally cheaper for the median person to take unpaid time off work, travel to Canada or Mexico (whichever is closer) and pay a top-tier medical practitioner out-of-pocket. At the “after insurance” rate of $1400, you can tack on the tourist luxuries of your choice, maybe travel to Europe or Asia instead.

  5. scpantera says:

    Skeptical to some degree about the ADHD medication thread. A pharmacist arbitrarily adding time to a controlled substance’s due date is the waiter-pissed-in-my-soup of pharmacy; sure -some- pharmacist -might- do this, but there’s no reason to expect that they would have done it for no reason, granted that might range from petty to the guy was a recurring asshole. It’s also professionally risky if someone complains up the chain and can actually prove that they’re due dates are being messed with which is maybe what the “had a few hours left” was referring to, but being a pharmacist who’s dealt with hundreds of people being bad actors and then pretending they never did anything wrong I’m sort of honor-bound to doubt.

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