Covid 2/24/22: The Next War

Russia has invaded Ukraine, with an explicit goal of ‘demilitarization and denazification.’

On its face, this has nothing to do with Covid. The invasion may reflect a perception, either on the part of Putin or otherwise, from our Covid-19 response or otherwise, that the West has shown itself incapable of dealing with real world physical problems, and therefore feeling he has a free hand. It also may have shown Putin and/or others that one can use justifications that are obvious and blatant nonsense lies with impunity. Those facts also may have little or nothing to do with it. We do not know.

I do not feel qualified at this time to comment further beyond an urgent call to build as many state of the art nuclear power plants as we can as quickly as possible, so I’ll be looking at other sources and watching the BBC News like everyone else to try and get a handle on the war. At least for now I’d only be adding noise.

Under such conditions, and with Omicron in decline and relatively mild, it may seem foolish to focus on Covid-19. Ignoring other events would be a mistake, but ignoring Covid-19 would also be a mistake. Covid-19 prevention efforts continue to disrupt our lives, and as events in Canada have shown us such events can pose long term existential threats to our freedom. Justin Trudeau has ended his emergency decree, but the groundwork remains laid for next time. There is danger that a variety of pandemic measures might not only continue for far too long but even become permanent.

As for the actual case and death counts? Sure, worth tracking those too.

Executive Summary

  1. Russia invades Ukraine.
  2. Canada freezes bank accounts of those they dislike without due process.
  3. Covid cases continue to decline.

Let’s run the numbers.

The Numbers

Predictions

Prediction from last week: 555k cases (-35%) and 11,400 deaths (-25%).

Results: 485k cases (-40%) and 13,075 deaths (-14%).

Prediction for next week: 340k cases (-30%) and 10,460 deaths (-20%).

I forgot about Presidents Day, which explains cases dropping somewhat more than I expected, so I presume true case counts were closer to the path that I expected.

That only makes the small decline in deaths more puzzling. There are echoes of this in the past, where death counts declined less rapidly than expected at the tail end of a wave, presumably because of a long tail of how long it takes some patients to die and/or officials to register some of the deaths. It is not plausible that death rates are suddenly much higher, so such lags are the only remaining explanation. I do still expect the decline to accelerate from here, but I will temper such expectations.

Given the declines continue to be broad-based across all regions, I don’t expect them to slow much – the smaller decline here mostly represents me adjusting for the holiday.

Deaths

Cases

Physical World Modeling

The BA.2 variant of Omicron is going to take over from the BA.1 variant. Should we be worried?

As far as I can tell, no.

It does mean rate of spread will rise somewhat, but if it was enough to put us back into a nightmare it would not have taken this long.

BA.2 infections after BA.1 cases exist but are rare. Once again, it looks like BA.2 will not change the game.

Study puts the India death toll in the 3.2mm-3.7mm range.

Sanofi vaccine tests at 100% effective against severe disease. FDA approval will be tricky and it is not clear another vaccine matters at this stage, but still good news.

CDC data seems to contradict itself. The difference does not much matter for what we should do, but it is still rather a large mistake to be making and risks leading to a lot of confusion.

Zeynep thread on Long Flu cases from the 1919 pandemic. Such problems are nothing new and have been underplayed for a long time. Disease is not good for humans.

Prevention and Prevention Prevention Prevention

Portugal lets my people go.

New York City Mayor Eric Adams keeps getting better, reveals plans to perhaps let my people go right here where I live.

If and when there is another variant that changes the situation sufficiently that we need to rethink the situation, it seems easy enough to temporarily reinstate the mandate. It is high time, and ‘can’t wait to get it done’ shows exactly the right attitude. We are very close to the traditional 10 cases per 100k people per day threshold (I think we’re at 12 right now). When we get to 10 is when I start pushing on things like the guidelines in my own building.

Who counts as ‘we’ is always tricky.

What counts as ‘we’ knowing a thing? If those who are ‘forming their own conclusions’ know it but public health officials refuse to acknowledge it and the rules do not reflect it, do we know it?

Yes. I think that counts. The statement “We knew X but officials kept saying ~X” seems to me to be meaningful and not a contradiction. Consider the top reply to above.

What “we” know and what is official policy are, to me, different magisteria.

Here is an interesting argument that what matters most is not when to end restrictions, but what it would take to start them up again.

There is also a basic obviously correct point here, which is that our public health apparatus failed us and we need to fix it so that does not happen again, and in particular we need to get ahead of the situation and project forward (as I have attempted to do) rather than react only when things are already bad.

There is also the point that the key problem with lifting restrictions, both in terms of consequences and in getting people to be all right with it, is specifying what would make us reverse course. It’s also a discussion that’s better to have now, rather than later. We can agree to end restrictions now, and then resume them if and only if the agreed upon conditions surface, which can include ‘new pandemic threat that isn’t Covid’ without exact details on that front.

What would be a good rule? The temptation is to say ‘never’ and I would endorse that in the absence of a new variant but new variants that are sufficiently dangerous remain possible. We would want a principle for what to do if that happened. I would say that in order to re-impose restrictions we would need to either see a new variant that had (1) was clearly going to take over and spread rapidly enough to have a peak approaching or exceeding January 2022, (2) had large additional immune escape and (3) was expected to be substantially more dangerous than Omicron despite the availability of new treatments. Or alternatively, if (4) the hospitals were clearly about to be overwhelmed, by some definition of that, maybe just use the hospital criteria since reacting too soon only burns up the public’s willingness to endure restrictions anyway.

That would be my suggestion. If someone wants to reimpose rules simply on modestly higher case levels, they should say that now so we can all know what we are dealing with – but also so we can perhaps reach an understanding.

While 70% of Americans think ‘Covid is here to stay and we should get on with our lives’ opinions about whether to actually decrease prevention are all over the map. About half of people still seem to want to keep current measures in place or even strengthen them, despite no practical hope that this would ever end.

Here are some poll results about indoor mask mandates in particular.

Note however that this poll, although shared this week, referred to indoor mask mandates for the next thirty days as of the end of December. At that time the argument for a temporary indoor mask mandate was maximally strong. Cases are dramatically down since then.

From MR, a telling fact.

It is widely believed that speaking helps to spread Covid, including in public places.  Yet if you try to book a ticket on the Acela (a term also used sarcastically to describe a particular brand of Eastern elites), you can get tickets only in the Quiet Car.  The rest of the train is already sold out, because people prefer to be able to talk.

You may not think that is how things should be, but that is how they are.  And no, the Acela does not run from Alabama to West Virginia.

Not only is the quiet car otherwise underrated, this shows how much people actually care about physical Covid prevention for its own sake. The answer is very little.

When the account DefiantLs got suspended from Twitter I started following it for a bit, until this one made me realize I’d had more than enough.

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Not only is it impossible for people to tell the difference between public mandate and private choice, they are being mocked as hypocrites and liars for daring to notice that there is a distinction.

Or, more simply:

The fifth circuit court ruled that United’s employees might suffer irreparable harm if its vaccine mandate was implemented. A conservative judge dissenting from the decision brings what can only be described as The Fire, and calls for en banc consideration even though decision wasn’t published. Thread is wild, if you dig that sort of thing you should check it out.

UK now lets you order free lateral flow tests every 72 hours instead of every 24. It is odd that stricter limits need to be imposed now after demand has peaked. Perhaps too many people were using this to hard tests.

Think of the Children

CDC has lowered its requirement for how fast kids learn speech.

They didn’t say why they did this, but perhaps could masks be hurting children’s ability to learn language, and they’re trying to pretend it is fine?

Mostly I’m all for lowering ‘milestones’ because my experience as a parent says that the primary purpose of milestones is to find the place in which your child is below average and then freak you the hell out about it for no good reason.

Washington Post has an article about mask battles in Virginia public schools where students now are free to choose.

Youngkin issued his mask-optional order, which aims to give Virginia parents choice over masking in both public and private schools, on his first day in office. A fierce fight ensued: Seventy of 131 Virginia school districts refused to comply and kept their mask requirements, according to a Washington Post analysis, and parents and school officials filed a flurry of lawsuits for and against the order. This week, the Virginia General Assembly narrowly passed — along largely partisan lines — a law that requires all schools to go mask-optional on March 1, ensuring every one of Virginia’s more than 1.8 million public and private schoolchildren will face masking decisions and tensions at school in days to come.

Lawsuits in all directions is our fate these days in such situations. There is little freedom of action, even over the question of whether those forced to attend will have this little bit of freedom of action.

As one might expect, school officials often did their best to enforce the now-disallowed mask mandate by other means.

Some Virginia students were thrilled to remove their masks — but their elation quickly souredwhen administrators in districts that still required masking sent unmasked children into isolated rooms or back to their homes.

Later in the post is the story of two students who tried to not wear masks, and were imprisoned and denied their educations as punishment by the school until they gave in. As a consequence, they are being socially ostracized.

The term is ‘can’t let it go’:

School now feels, Swan said, “like a war zone”: a raging partisan battle that no one can opt out of, because every single student arrives with evidence of their politics — those without masks typically lean right, she said — written across their faces. Swan said she has stopped speaking with students who go maskless because they are dismissive of the decision to mask and unwilling to hear a different opinion.

Yes, you can opt out of this ‘partisan battle,’ but we’ve drilled in such toxic messaging that the kids can often no longer see that.

Notice the framing. If you make the anti-Narrative decision, you are ‘unwilling to hear a different opinion.’ So she stops speaking with them. Which, I believe, is the literal definition of being unwilling to hear a different opinion – if you do not agree with her, she will not speak to you.

The entire article, in the Washington Post, paints a strangely one-sided picture.

Students who want to go maskless are doing so because they not only see little risk but also because they systematically find it difficult to learn while wearing masks. One has given up wearing glasses because they kept fogging up, and is learning semi-blind. Others found it difficult to focus, talk and listen.

Students and parents who insist on mask mandates ignore (and presumably when challenged, deny the existence) of such problems, impose mandates via isolation and ostracism and treat any disagreement as evidence of unreasonableness. Two students raised actual concerns. One has severe lung damage and sounds like he has no business being in school regardless of who wears what masks given the level of health concerns. Remember that masks only offer modest protection. The other is physically concerned is concerned because her getting Covid might force a family member to quarantine, and then be unable to take another family member to the hospital for an unrelated condition. Quite telling.

The ACLU is suing to force schools to force students to wear masks, on the theory that not requiring masks is ‘excluding, denying access or segregating.’ I remember when the ACLU did not actively fight against civil liberties.

Announcing Alvea – An Effective Altruist Covid-19 Vaccine Project

I find this project super exciting, and I consulted for them briefly on modeling cases to help plan their clinical trials. I’ll be happy to help them again if they once again need my expertise or advice.

We’ve had effective COVID vaccines for more than a year, but there are still countries where less than 10% of people have received a dose. Omicron has been spreading for almost three months, but pharma companies have only just started testing variant-specific shots. mRNA vaccines are highly effective, but they’re hard to manufacture and nearly impossible to distribute in parts of the developing world.

We won’t be ready for the next variant, or the next pandemic, until these problems are solved. 

We’ve initially structured Alvea as a three-month sprint to test the hypothesis that an exceptionally bright, dedicated group of people can quickly accomplish remarkable things in this space. In the past eight weeks, we’ve built a team of 35 drug developers, logistics experts, physicians, operators, and scientists to bring the project to fruition. We’re supported by a network of consultants and partners with deep experience in every aspect of vaccine development and infectious disease response. 

This is exactly what we should be doing, for both the ‘EA’ and ‘everyone’ values of we.

In the 60 days since our inception, we’ve designed twelve versions of our Omicron vaccine, responded to the emergence of the BA.2 subvariant, produced hundreds of doses of our lead candidate, run preclinical experiments in mice and sheep, kicked off scalable manufacturing processes, planned Phase I and II clinical studies, and identified potential partner countries for accelerated trials. There’s an enormous amount of work still to be done, but we are well on our way.

They are hiring, and if you’re thinking about it I’d encourage you to reach out to them.

Alvea is led by Ethan Alley and Grigory Khimulya (Co-CEOs), Cate Hall, and Kyle Fish. Our team is growing rapidly, and we’re particularly keen to expand in the following areas:

  • Wet laboratory (molecular biology, in vitro and in vivo development)
  • Clinical trial operations and logistics
  • General company operations
  • cGMP manufacturing and quality
  • Technical/scientific management

We’d love to hear from anyone who’s interested in dropping everything to get involved! Reach us at info@alveavax.com.

Here’s a post that lists some other ideas for potentially big EA biosafety projects. It’s good to think big, and to actually go attempt to Do the big Thing.

In Other News

Bloomberg reports that Paxlovid supply is catching up to newly reduced demand. This is a huge deal. If Paxlovid is available to whoever wants it the risks from Covid-19 drop dramatically, and any decision on a personal level to be afraid of Covid-19 at all while vaccinated simply does not make any sense.

Video calls are great, but also compared to real life they remain pretty terrible and we need to remember that.

Latest Ivermectin study finds a (probably coincidental) small negative effect on disease progression. My model is that people are either convinced it doesn’t work or convinced it does in ways that won’t be moved by such studies, so more such studies won’t make the question more over than it already was, but including anyway.

Some info on China’s ‘wet markets.’

Thread where WHO is its usual unhelpful self, in a low-key internal conference way.

Report from the NYC Anime Convention where Omicron spread amongst a group of friends. A positivity rate of 2.5% is judged to be evidence that ‘masks and other countermeasures worked’ but the associates of the local patient zero largely still got infected with Omicron, so this is an odd use of the word ‘worked.’

UK Covid testing company sells customer genetic information to third parties. If this surprises or alarms you, what can I say, always read your contract.

Following up on the ‘CDC is insanely cautious’ principle from last week, one should point out it goes that much deeper. They recommend not only well done burgers but well done steak, requests for which rightfully get one actively thrown out of fine restaurants. Treat CDC requirements as being similar to requiring steak be cooked well done.

This thread attempts to give an answer to ‘should we mask?’ now that we have the option not to, and attempts to offer various logic and considerations, from someone who has offered various useful physical modeling during Omicron, but the core thinking is truly bizarre to me if taken at face value.

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My guess on the actual logic here is that an arbitrary threshold was picked, and disposing of it would require more justification than sticking with it, so there are strong internal pressures to find a way to say everything cancels out and stick with the same threshold even though the threshold should clearly have gone up. That then combines with morality-based pandemic models, where what determines risk is largely whether people’s prevention sacrifices are worthy.

Case rates are underestimated? Yes, but no reason to think they are now more underestimated than they were before Omicron, so this isn’t a change, except to extent that many cases are so mild they are literally going unnoticed. Which might be true but doesn’t sound like a reason to on net increase worry.

Protection has fallen? Maybe somewhat, but the original threshold predates the boosters entirely, as well as Omicron, and the booster isn’t listed in the righthand benefits column to begin with.

The data on Long Covid I’ve analyzed in detail and at this point and I do not believe such considerations look worse than they did previously, whatever one’s view on them overall.

Others ditching masks increasing your risk and thus encouraging you to wear a mask can be true or false depending on what you are controlling for. If we know how many cases there are, and that cases are declining at a given rate, then noticing lack of masks does not increase our estimate of risk, because whatever is happening was already priced in. If anything, everyone else going maskless decreases your estimate of risk, because it means that going maskless would keep your relative risk the same as theirs, and we already know the average risk level. Similarly, seeing everyone around you indoor dine and take other risks should make you more worried if you don’t know the number of cases or rate of case growth. But it should make you less worried if you do know the number of cases and rate of case growth already.

Paxlovid being partially available is a reason to be less cautious on net, not more cautious, yet somehow Paxlovid ends up in the ‘more worried’ column.

Being able to ‘live with it for a few more weeks’ was always true, and when will that stop? A better way of putting this is ‘cases are declining rapidly’ and all right, I guess, but it’s still marginal costs versus marginal benefits. The real objection here is the last one, that it ‘seems foolish’ to risk now if risk is lower later, rather than doing an EV calculation where lower risk in future sufficiently raises the value of prevention now.

Overall, I can’t see a plausible case that the ‘more worried’ considerations could come close to cancelling out the booster and the transition to Omicron. Especially since we are still talking about doing the especially high-value prevention efforts even below whatever threshold we pick. If the risk is truly ‘like the flu’ as he states why are we even having these conversations at this point?

Not Covid

Before the war started I was working on clearing out my backlog of non-Covid things, so I have a draft of a lot of those that I hope to go live with later today once I finish organizing it. Then I need to think about what makes sense given the war that started overnight.

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34 Responses to Covid 2/24/22: The Next War

  1. Andrew Clough says:

    The fact that covid is spread by vocalization has been almost entirely absent from public health messaging in the US, unlike in Japan. I expect that most people have no clue that a quite car will tend to be safer from Covid and that’s why there isn’t any demand for them.

  2. Thegnskald says:

    Did Russia invade Ukraine? My understanding is that they aren’t anywhere they haven’t already been for several years already; if they invaded, they did so eight years ago. What changed, per my understanding?
    Russia recognized two countries in Ukraine’s borders, and has admitted to the existence of its military presence there as “peacekeeping forces”, and characterized them as being there on the request of the nascent states in question.
    And the US government, through NATO, said that it was an invasion.

  3. Anonymous-backtick says:

    “Russia has invaded Ukraine. Putin claims the goal is to ‘de-nazify’ a country whose elected president is Jewish.”

    Dude. You *just* wrote https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2022/02/03/on-bounded-distrust/ about how fucked up it is to use this style of dishonesty.

    • TheZvi says:

      “We will strive for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.” – Vladimir Putin, literally just now on my TV. I suppose I could edit to include demilitarization but I wanted to emphasize that Putin’s explanations are intentionally non-sensical. I mean I could write a lot on what I think is going on but this did not seem like the time.

      • Anonymous-backtick says:

        Intentionally nonsensical, or needling the enemy by adding a frame for his actions in their ridiculous worldview?

        Either way it’s the “the” that puts your claim over the line.

      • Sergey P says:

        Hi Zvi. Been following you quite recently, for a few months. I like your rhetorical style, even if I sometimes disagree with your takeaways. Which is probably what should be expected in any case other than me being a worshipper. Through you I have also discovered Scott Alexander, another exciting and beautiful mind. Feels refreshing to have a high level of discussion that is neither in the warm fuzzy consensus space, nor in a heroic contrarian pose, but rather just free minds exploring the universe around them.

        I am aware you try to steer clear of politics, but I assume since this post contains bits on the war in Ukraine some exemptions are due. I would like to offer a slight clarification on Putin’s claims. Mind you, I am on the fence about Putin himself and strongly condone the war being waged. But it should not change the facts.

        Which are that Ukraine does have a lot of nazi sentiment going, or at least more than one would consider appropriate. It stems somewhat from a controversial role of some Ukrainian folks in the WW2, but maybe from other things as well, like a poor country and a tendency towards populist nationalism. Anyway, there are not just sentiments, but also things like Azov Battalion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion) which is openly neo-nazi and took part in the war in LDNR.

        I am not informed enough as to understand what role do neo-nazi play in policymaking, how close they are to power. It might well be close to zero. And yet if we assume even a minimal political power of neo-nazi in Ukraine and only admit the proven beyond the reasonable doubt — still, I feel it would be unfair to call mr. Putin’s justification non-sensical. Overblown? Perhaps, even quite likely. Overspun clumsily for imagined PR value? Perhaps, even quite likely. But non-sensical feels like a complete dismissal of any possible grounds, which seems to not be the case. Actual presence of neo-nazi elements who are left to roam quite free, combined with mr. Zelensky’s speculations of developing nuclear weapons — is a thing that had a high chance to trigger a knee-jerk response from a former KGB officer brought up in the Cold War times.

        Which does not at all mean this response is right, adequate or just.

        I strongly condemn the war. I think the invasion is a huge historical mistake. Starting wars is a bad thing to do. No matter the justifications. Well, apart from a war to stop an imminent bigger threat.

        But I feel it would be in the spirit of your blog to try and understand each side’s arguments as precise as possible.

        • TheZvi says:

          Would have felt crazy not to mention the war – as I said, I modified the wording to avoid the distraction. I may choose to talk more about it but I want to consider that carefully before doing so and also take more time to get my bearings.

          I could talk about my model of Putin’s actual motivations, but that’s an area where I very much don’t want to speculate here until I have the time and orientation to do it right.

      • polithrowaway says:

        I’m posting this with a throwaway in case it’d get me on some list or other. I just want to get a better understanding of the situation and hope to see your read on it, Zvi.

        This war is a tragedy that Russia should never have started and I hope peace is restored quickly. Since war has many sides, it was surprisingly hard to find primary sources for the Russian narrative. Finally, I came across Putin’s uncut speech.

        I don’t speak Russian and can’t comment on the accuracy of the subtitles.

        In the context of the speech, Nazis were a group of dangerous expansionists from the west. Putin’s notion of Nazis has no relation to extermination of the jews. And that sort of makes sense. The Nazis did a lot of bad thngs, why should you only be able to call someone a Nazi for one of them? In that light, the US and NATO are now a group of dangerous expansionists from the west, and so are being called neo-nazis.

        Putin claims the current politicians in power were put there by western influence, after a coup in 2014. Those exerting this western influence inside Ukraine are the ones he wants to root out: “denazify”. I can’t tell if he means any western sympathizers (insane) or active planted US agents (more reasonable).

        Though more importantly, this quote is past the halfway mark in the video. Putin spends the greater part of the first half on NATO’s continued expansion eastwards, on the wars in Iraq, Libya and Syria for which there were no UNSC and I’m guessing other sanctions.

        The general message he’s conveying seems to be more of desperation “we’re being back into a corner here” rather than the rebuilding the former USSR narrative I’ve seen around. Basically, that the US has been acting with impunity and the threat of sanctions prevents Russia from doing the same. Reading between the lines, while NATO isn’t the US empire and other members are autonomous, the US has a lot of influence over them, especially compared to Russia.

        What’s a good source where the US addresses this point about NATO expansion?

        I’m not saying I agree with any of this. Just this is what Putin seem to be saying.

    • TheZvi says:

      After getting a second complaint I have modified the language further – I don’t want this to be a distraction, it’s not worth the fight.

      My model is that Putin wants to make it very clear that he is giving common-knowledge-nonsensical justifications for his actions because he wants to assert he needs no such justification. Other examples: Language word-for-word matching his statements on Georgia before that attack, the watch at the meetings, the videos of shelling being so absurdly obviously faked, etc etc. It’s a clear pattern.

      • Sergey P says:

        Thanks. I would be very interested in your take on mr. Putin’s motivation. Though it is a very delicate subject right now, and I would understand if you take your time or choose to speak in a less agitated moment somewhat later.

  4. Eye Beams are Cool says:

    I don’t trust any survey that says mask mandates are 10 or 11 points more popular in TX and FL than MN. That doesn’t pass anything like a sniff test.

    “The entire article, in the Washington Post, paints a strangely one-sided picture.”
    Working as intended. Closing bug. Do not resubmit.

    Substack is currently down (522 herokuapp page) so sorry if this is posted there too. I hit submit and got the 502.

    • TheZvi says:

      Yeah, it’s bizarre.

      Confirmed that Substack is down on the day Russia is launching an invasion. I am guessing that is not a coincidence. Glad to have my backup hosts in place.

      • Eye Beams are Cool says:

        Seems to be back up. I would put money on not-a-coincidence. Given how much heroku hosts, I would assume substack getting DOSed would be colatoral damage and not the target. The way a fruit stand catches shrapnel when a bridge gets bombed. But whatever.

        For the record – I thought your original comment on Putin’s statement was both semantically accurate (denazification and demilitarization seem non-conjunctive to me), morally accurate (which is mostly just an opinion), and a good hook to discuss the out-of-touch-with-physical-reality critique. I know you said its not worth the hassel, but wanted to verbalize the silent nodding that at least one regular reader had when he saw it so you can triangulate a touch better.

        • TheZvi says:

          Thank you on all counts – I confirmed Substack was down, but shortly after I posted it was down it went back up. And I agree that the statement was all those things, but given I *don’t* want to then talk about those things in this post it’s a distraction. If I want to talk about that stuff, then we’ll talk about that stuff (and we’ll then have room for context so it won’t need to be glib.)

    • keaswaran says:

      If there’s 20,000 total respondents, then I expect there are something like 1,000 each from Florida or Texas, giving a 3% margin of error in those numbers, and something like 400 from Minnesota, giving a somewhat larger margin of error. Texas, Florida, and Minnesota are all basically 50/50 partisan mix, even though Minnesota is perceived as blue while Texas and Florida are perceived as red. 10 points total difference seems somewhat surprising, but I would not be surprised if Texas and Florida Democrats are very pro-mask-mandate since their only exposure to them over the past year is their governors banning them in very culture-war ways, while Minnesota Democrats might be more mixed, if they’ve actually experienced them.

      I don’t know if those factors add up to explaining a 10 point margin, but maybe?

      • Eye Beams are Cool says:

        I’ve lived in all three states. Minesodans are rule followers, with the Nordic heritage showing through very strongly. Highest votor turn out in the country. Canadian levels of politeness, etc. TX, even in the blue enclave I spent time in, had a much stronger ‘Try and make me’ attitude. FL is populated with Florida Men.

  5. ech says:

    The child development changes are unconnected to COVID and were in the works for years. They were not done just by the CDC and the work was led by the American Academy of Pediatrics. The AAP addressed not just speech, but a number of other development targets – following commands, walking, motor skills, etc. And note that the item that has been seized on is number of words known, not how well they are pronounced.

    This change was made because studies showed that at 24 months, 50% of children met that standard. Only 50%. By moving it to 30 months, the percentage is 75%. That makes an intervention much more likely to be effective.

    In addition, they added benchmarks at 15 months, where there had been none before.

    Here is a paper that outlines the work.
    https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/doi/10.1542/peds.2021-052138/184748/Evidence-Informed-Milestones-for-Developmental

  6. Sebastian H says:

    Re we all knew that outdoor Covid spread ~0: it’s a big part of the reason why there was less health official pushback on the Floyd protests in the summer. They already knew it was safe. This observation doesn’t help us much though, because it led to one of the two public health communications that led to intense distrust (the other being the mask debacle at the beginning).

  7. Daniel Speyer says:

    Since when does Amtrak allow you to pick quiet or non-quiet car when buying a ticket? I’ve taken a lot of Amtrak, including some Acela, and I’ve never seen that. Nor did I see it on their website when I checked just now.

  8. Basil Marte says:

    > Notice the framing. If you make the anti-Narrative decision, you are ‘unwilling to hear a different opinion.’ So she stops speaking with them.
    The term is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projective_identification

    I have some relatives who use “hear opinion” = “listen to advice” (motte) = “listen to advice” (bailey) = “defer to their authority” fully transitively and who concern their thoughts with “what will others think” to varying degrees. This is most hilarious (and pronounced) with my 97 y.o. granny, who is still mentally sharp enough to try to enforce social norms she learned decades ago. (Hilarious to me, that is.)

    If I’ve written that, I might as well continue with a quote from a few weeks ago that stuck with me. During a multiple-hour press event, the Hungarian government spokesman answered a journalist’s question about a culture-war-laden law with “[…] we stand for normality and oppose abnormality […]”. I encountered it because the (govt-friendly channel) news saw it fit to illustrate their bit about the progress of said law with exactly this question-answer pair. Apparently they think that moral platonism sells with the voters.
    (The reason the quote stuck with me is that it had a functional purpose in the press event. Some journalist would have had to use one(*) of their slots to ask questions on challenging the implied-to-be-assumed moral philosophy, and probably look like a jerk while doing so; if they didn’t, then they were taken to tacitly assent to the frame, therefore further basically-hostile questions on culture war issues could be batted down with a repeat of this quote, thus the journalists wouldn’t ask such questions, which I assume was the spokesman’s goal. This purpose is especially visible against the background of the spokesman being “a lizard”.
    *: “One” is naive; I expect that such a challenge would be (not-) answered with a pretense that the spokesman misunderstood the challenging question.)

  9. Anonymous-backtick says:

    I’d rather rank and file Ukrainians and Russians not die, even if they’re temporarily misled! And I think, like an even more extreme version of what Zvi tends to do, you’re so focused on near-impossible utopian futures that you ignore important differences in the shades of grey we have real choices between.

    But I agree with the parts about how disgusting the puppet occupation government is acting, trying to shred as many of the Ukrainian lives they despise as they can by pretending this is a HEROIC SPARTAN RESISTANCE that actually has a chance of affecting anything. Urging civilians to use molotov cocktails and burn down their own streets–dishonestly sacrificing what’s putatively but OBVIOUSLY NOT REALLY their own people so they can give the Russians more bad press, more manufactured atrocities, as the people die.

    Fuck the regime. Afghanistan threw them out, Russia’s throwing them out of Ukraine, and the hope is starting to grow–just a little bit–that one day we can too.

  10. TheZvi says:

    User Anon has been permanently banned for (among other things) telling various people including myself to go die in a fire. Was not a hard decision, but it does make me sad because it is the first time I have had to ban a user.

    Anon’s comments on this post have also all been deleted, which will make some of the other comments look weird. This is the first time I have deleted non-spam comments except at the explicit request of the original poster and I hope not to do it again for a long time.

    Thank you.

    • Basil Marte says:

      Positive reinforcement wrt. the ban. Walled gardens need a non-rock guard. Consider celebrating the occasion?

      The “other comments” that are chained via any of Anon’s comments don’t “look weird” but disappeared — in case this wasn’t what you intended to happen and/or describe.

    • George H. says:

      Oh, good. (Well not good you had to ban someone.) But good my post was just collateral damage, and not anything bad. No worries, I was going to suggest ignoring Anon till he went away. But your way is much easier.

  11. Rotten Bananas says:

    What would a temporary reimposition of vaccine passports look like in say, the wave next winter? Recently double-vaxxed has to be counted in, as well as recently boosted, but how about those who’ve boosted and gone on with their lives, like having their vaccine passports “expire” at a time when it’s dormant? Should they boost again or do previous boosting count? There has to be clear guidelines for who is counted and who isn’t, or else there will be confusion about whether to be boosted again or not right before the start of restrictions.

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